And these are the people who have devoted their careers, their lives to church life and to spiritual leadership. So overall, you just have a real decline in Christianity in the United States.īut for me as a reporter, the most interesting and surprising problem involved with all this is the fact that pastors themselves are quitting or at least considering quitting in really large numbers right now. Longer term, you have fewer and fewer people identifying as Christian. And a lot of people just didn’t come back. Churches closed at the beginning of the pandemic. Well, the biggest issue is that just because of the pandemic, church attendance is way down. It’s a high point.īut at the same time, when you take a magnifying glass to it, in another way, it’s really a movement in crisis.

So on paper, this is a really celebratory moment for them. They’ve been working toward that for decades.

They’re thrilled that Roe v Wade has been overturned. And in a lot of ways, this is a triumphant moment. white evangelicals specifically, this is a socially and religiously conservative group. And when you think about - michael barbaro Evangelicals make up about a quarter of the US, which is really a remarkable number. Well, we’re talking about the largest religious group in the country. Ruth, what is the story of the evangelical movement right now in the United States? ruth graham My colleague Ruth Graham on the story of how Trumpism is driving evangelical pastors out of their own pulpits. Today, Kevin Thompson thought that he would lead his hometown congregation for the rest of his life. michael barbaroįrom The New York Times, I’m Michael Barbaro. Please review the episode audio before quoting from this transcript and email with any questions. While it has been reviewed by human transcribers, it may contain errors. This transcript was created using speech recognition software.

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